but at this point i would not put my bet on it. if we want to have hope in china and the hope is with the people. so i think it's the people who are going to change the future. >> suarez: how? how can the people change the future when their lives are so thoroughly controlled? >> (translated): again, where there is oppression there's resistance. and they invest tons and tons of money and human resources to control. on myself alone they have spent 0, 80 millions and thousands of people and what happened? i'm here. i'm sitting right here. dictators are actually very fearful themselves. even when they're asleep they're afraid that others will take their powers away and, in fact their own powers are taken by force, by violence. they are not just afraid of me as an individual, they are afraid of a lot of people and the overall suppression on the average people having -- has deterred and so they are -- there's suppression on other minority groups. they spend -- like i said, they spend a lot of money on me and they spend a huge amount of m